Its clear that Great Falls and Magic Valley will probably move back down to AA, the question will be which AA team will move up to replace them in AAA or will it just be 6 teams in the AAA next season
I sure hope a few teams man up. AAA is already a little too small. Just because you weren't competitive this year doesn't mean you can't make some changes during the offseason and get better and compete next year. Look at the Oilers in AA. They really struggled last year, but this year they only have one loss. That is a significant upgrade. Censored are you sure they are going to drop back down or are they maybe going to upgrade over the off season and compete next year?
The AAA will be just fine if a few teams go to AA. If neccesary they can always play a home and away schedule. The top 5-6 AAA teams always stay the same, they just change order. It would make travel even as well.
Stogs, I stand Corrected. You are Right. My appologies
Per Mapquest:
Boise to SLC - 340 miles
St George to SLC - 306 miles
Logan to SLC - 85 miles
SLC to SLC - wash
Question is that there was rumblings about a one division league at one point posed by a AAA GM for less travel. Is it good for the League for example to have the Shock play Elko or The Spartans play the Guardians?
No disrespect intended to anyone, its just a question?
I also dont think it should be "Going back to AA".
Or, how bout a handful of teams join us in AAA and nobody will go back... You mention how apparent it is that the bulldawgs return to AA yet we only beat them by 1 in overtime. And the Gladiators can compete next year in AAA with a little recruiting and possibly an additional montana team or two in aaa....
AAA is a fun and competitive level of play and I think that there are several teams who would enjoy the competition. One league is not good for anyone!!!
More then half the Shock players are calling it quits after this season.
What about the other half? I know there are a lot of possibilities and options, but why not include passing the team on to future stars and players. I'm sure Kyto could find/train a responsible GM to take on responsibilities.
T-Smo wrote:
Why would Kyto want to let someone else take over something he pretty much built from the ground up?
Kyto put in a lot of hard work only to fold the team. I know the road traveled has been pretty good for players who've been there through the years. But why not keep the living memory of the Shock alive?
Why would Kyto squash something he built from the ground up? Your idiology seems backwards to me.
T-Smo wrote:
The Rhino Raiders left after winning 8 championships and now thats what they will be remembered for!!!
Who cares about looking and seeing who has played in the past?
First part, the Rhino-Raiders won 4 in the RMFL and were VERY dominant in their time. However, where are they now? They are nothing more than a small indent on a webpage, that means very little to most people.
Second part you answered in the first part. Apparently you care who the Rhino-Raiders were. But wouldn't you have like to see the Rhino-Raiders still competing in the RMFL? You must be thinking of each team as a specific group of guys, I think of each team as a franchise that can be carried on throughout the years. Just because George Washington died doesn't mean that US citizens had to find a new country to live in.
What I personally think is pretty significant is that in 20 years from now nearly none of us will be still playing, a lot of us will be grandpas and have a far away life, but IF there is a RMFL in 20 years from now I could almost garauntee that there will be an Idaho (Falls) Mustangs or even Davis Vipers.
Personally, I would like to see Kyto pass the torch rather than put it out.
-- Edited by Cpt Crunch on Wednesday 30th of May 2012 02:31:20 PM
Kyto, just wondering why you don't try to get someone to take over the responsibilities of the team rather than taking it out of the league all together?
Idaho Falls, Magic Valley, and other teams that have been around for a while have been kept going by new bloods. Even if the majority of players are leaving, why not try to salvage the Muddogs/Shock dynasty?
It's pretty cool when we look into the years teams are established and you see Idaho Falls as 1997, and Magic Valley as 1998, Vipers 2001, and other long term teams. I always kind of assumed that the Shock would be the same.
Eh not really if the Matadors and Generals move up with Maybe the Blaze. Then it would be 2 MT, 4 Id, 4 UT teams. Would rather have both the shock and revos in it though!
Blaze Coach from another thread. "I dont get why the AA is such a problem for AAA. Remember we are just JV squads to the varsity AAA.. The Blaze were in AAA for 2 years.. we made it to the semi-finals. After traveling so much that year, players said no more and split the Blaze in half to create the Rush and force the Blaze back to the AA.. We loved the competition in the AAA, but when Idaho Falls & a Utah team only showed up to our home games with 11 or 12 players, it became a joke.. We lost fans that thought this league wasn't worth watching and players begin to lose interest. We have regained what we lost over the last 3 years and are stronger than ever before.. But until the league decides on a better format on travel & schedules for the AAA... just leave us JV teams down in the league that only 18 teams care about.. WE ARE DOING FINE & WE ARE HAPPY :) T"
Looks like the Blaze are fine staying where they are. Which is really too bad. They were and are a good squad. The league has changed and Utah teams for the most part have been traveling well. (I think 18 to GF by the Stealth is the low and the Stampede but they are another story.) If losing players is the issue, get more sponsors to lower fees or do something not to lose you players. While beating up on the Snow Devils and Bearcats may be fun, any real player will tell you it is a lot more fun to win a nutcruncher.
Matadors should have moved up for this season, as they are making evident. But they need to get Tom his championship so he can ride off into the sunset with Follower???. Wait, is that a coincidence? Or is it Kyto or Golden since they are leaving too?!?
Generals are not ready for the move yet. They are a Top 5 offense in the entire league. But they are also a Bottom 5 defense. Even the Bulldawgs could put up 30 on this D.
It would be bad if there is no one to step up and take the Shock and the Rev over because they have been championship quality teams.
I see nothing wrong with going out (or somewhere else) on a good note. Personally, I think of certain names when I think of certain teams (duh) and if I were in Kyto's shoes, I don't think I would be too willing to leave a piece of my name behind to a fate that I no longer controlled. Teams fold or bow out... it happens. When it happens again, we will know the players that are determined to keep going because they have an opportunity, ESPECIALLY if 2 strong teams like the Shock and the Rev close shop, to consolidate and concentrate their strength. I don't think any players get left out in the cold (assuming their GMs wrap things up professionally *cough, Cowboys*).
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First of All. I think a GM like Kyto (who by the way is a multiple GM of the year award recipiant can do what ever he want with the outstanding team that he created)
Next im not afraid for the AAA next year what so ever, I see alot of fresh AA teams chomping at the bit and eager for the challenge. Just looking at the AA standings i see the potential of a North and a South Division with some cross over games.
I dont know if i agree with the rule in the constitution of forcing teams up but i do see some value in enticing the teams who can compete in AAA to move up.
Im my mind i see 2 potential Divisions (granted teams wanted to move up)
Deserved wrote: More than half, Kit. So if there are 4, more then half is 3.
Good call, I misread that.IIIIIIIII'm DUMB
Either way, passing the torch is more honorable than putting it out IMO. If you think no one else deserves to lead the team and you want your name to be the only one associated, then fold it.
Look at Ms. Carney try to turn Kyto into a selfish guy. HaHaHa! When in fact it's so far opposite of that it's ridiculous. Handing over a team that will need to replace 1 QB (best in the league), 3 RBs, 4+ WRs, 3+ OL, 1 K, 4 DL, 4+ LBs, 3+ DBs as well as coaches.... Yeah. That's not putting someone in a ridiculously tough spot. Not to mention no bankroll. But she's right.... She will disagree with me here and show you all! And I'm sure I missed some names of guys that have said they've decided to be done after this year. SMH
Look at Ms. Carney try to turn Kyto into a selfish guy. HaHaHa! When in fact it's so far opposite of that it's ridiculous. Handing over a team that will need to replace 1 QB (best in the league), 3 RBs, 4+ WRs, 3+ OL, 1 K, 4 DL, 4+ LBs, 3+ DBs as well as coaches.... Yeah. That's not putting someone in a ridiculously tough spot. Not to mention no bankroll. But she's right.... She will disagree with me here and show you all! And I'm sure I missed some names of guys that have said they've decided to be done after this year. SMH
Hoop, this will be one my first responses I have given you this year because you are a troll and one of the worst people of these boards who only offer negative replies, insults, and profanity to them, and not worth anyone's time on here. It will also be my last for the same reason.
I did not intend to make Kyto a selfish person. I meant to make Kyto a hardworker who has done something great that is going to disolve if some younger GM maybe didn't step in to offer assistance. If Kyto wants to fold the team then okay. I just wanted to get a grasp on why. I got my answer.
IMO, T-Smo is the one who made him look selfish, I simply reiterated.
-- Edited by Cpt Crunch on Thursday 31st of May 2012 08:52:31 AM
As someone who built and turned over a team, I can understand both sides. Either way, Kyto has certainly earned the right to write his own ending to the Shock story. It will obviously be a sad day in the RMFL if the Shock don't return.
Not to get preachy, but a lot of guys in the RMFL take their GMs (and thus the opportunity to play football) for granted. Many players realize and appreciate all the work that goes into running a team, but a lot don't. The GMs are the one's that put their time and money on the line so that everyone has the opportunity to play. As a league staff, we're just trying to make it as easy on them as possible.
once again Kit feels like he needs to be some smarty pants from his little town of mini-nuts. Kit you clown hoop for coming on here and being negative? you are negative as well and never give any good input. so stop acting like you are somebody of worth to this league and board and just shut up. i dont think their is one post that you have commented on that you dont mistakenly blame or misinterpret or just all out dont have a clue as to what is going on. so just keep that uneducated mouth shut!
Kit... Which one of us wants to be pot and which one wants to be kettle? I vote I'm kettle cause I'm just a loud mouth. And you pot cause I hear you're just a fat lil thing. But anyway... I gave you insight into what is going on AND was able to get you to say you'd shut up and not respond. So that's really a win for everybody! Go me!
Kyto if you want to fold up shop and dissolve the shock that is your choice and I really don't think to many people will be mad at you for that decision. I understand no wanting to hand over the reins to someone who may run the organization into the ground and tarnish what you have worked so hard to build. The Rhino's closed the doors for the same reason. Most of the guys that played on the Rhino's were almost in the retirement home anyways. So why hand over the Title of 8 straight to someone who might destroy that history. Go out on top man. You guys have had a great season! Who knows how the end of the year will end up.
The RMFL has changed so much since I left it 4 years ago.
Look at Ms. Carney try to turn Kyto into a selfish guy. HaHaHa! When in fact it's so far opposite of that it's ridiculous. Handing over a team that will need to replace 1 QB (best in the league), 3 RBs, 4+ WRs, 3+ OL, 1 K, 4 DL, 4+ LBs, 3+ DBs as well as coaches.... Yeah. That's not putting someone in a ridiculously tough spot. Not to mention no bankroll. But she's right.... She will disagree with me here and show you all! And I'm sure I missed some names of guys that have said they've decided to be done after this year. SMH
Hoop, this will be one my first responses I have given you this year because you are a troll and one of the worst people of these boards who only offer negative replies, insults, and profanity to them, and not worth anyone's time on here. It will also be my last for the same reason.
I did not intend to make Kyto a selfish person. I meant to make Kyto a hardworker who has done something great that is going to disolve if some younger GM maybe didn't step in to offer assistance. If Kyto wants to fold the team then okay. I just wanted to get a grasp on why. I got my answer.
IMO, T-Smo is the one who made him look selfish, I simply reiterated.
-- Edited by Cpt Crunch on Thursday 31st of May 2012 08:52:31 AM
@ youainttrillxx- what makes you mister bada**? you always comment on other peoples reply's yet never make your own statement on any topic that has any wieght. you degrade people as tho your some great being because your team is tripple A, why? Without the Dixie Rebels who are you? are you some punk kid with no identity without an internet username degrading other people or what? get a life and explore the wilderness or something.
@ youainttrillxx- what makes you mister bada**? you always comment on other peoples reply's yet never make your own statement on any topic that has any wieght. you degrade people as tho your some great being because your team is tripple A, why? Without the Dixie Rebels who are you? are you some punk kid with no identity without an internet username degrading other people or what? get a life and explore the wilderness or something.
