Rocky Mountain Football League

Cpt Crunch · Senior Member

Stat Clarification-Scenario and possible outcomes

admin · Veteran Member

Based on my experience reading prior NCAA guidelines, and running the Matadors. I am sure many can argue different ways of doing this.
The answers to your scenarios:

#1 - (A) Player should get credit for 1 tackle plus 1 TFL
#2 - (C) Player should get credit for 1 tackle, 1 TFL and 1 sack.
#3 - (C) Player should get credit for 1 tackle, 1 TFL and 1 FF

Jesus Jara

Cpt Crunch · Senior Member

Here's how I would've counted these scenarios previously, FWIW, I didn't do our stats, but it's confusing sometimes.

#1. B1 tackles A1 in the backfield for a loss of 2.

A. B1 is rewarded 1 Tackle AND 1 TFL

#2. B1 tackles (sacks) quarterback A1, while A1 attempts a forward pass behind the line of scrimmage.

A. B1 is rewarded 0 Tackle, 0 TFL, and 1 sack

#3. B1 sacks A1 and forces a fumble on the play, recovered by A2 who is called down ion the backfield.

B. B1 is rewarded 1 FF, and 1 Sack

Here is a couple blurbs from the NCAA Statisticians' Manual

I suggest to have this manual while doing stats, and notice how QBs are charged with a "Rush Attempt" and "Yardage Lost"

Article 3.

TACKLE FOR LOSS:

Tackles behind the line of scrimmage resulting in lost yardage, either of a ball carrier or a quarter-

back attempting to pass, are tackles for loss. Tackles at or on the line

of scrimmage (meaning zero yards gained or lost) cannot be record-

ed as a tackle for loss. The same principles noted above for solo and

assisted tackles still apply.

A.R. 1.

Benson is solely or primarily responsible for a tackle

resulting in lost yardage by the ball carrier. Benson is credited

with a solo tackle and a solo tackle for loss. He also gets the en-

tire yardage lost on the play.

A.R. 3.

Quarterback Aaron retreats into the pocket looking

to pass, but is forced out of the pocket and tucks the ball to run.

Benson tackles him before Aaron reaches the line of scrimmage.

Benson is credited with a solo tackle, a solo tackle for loss, and

a pass sack.

Intentional Grounding

A.R. 5.

Adams is back to pass, but is pressured by Benson

into throwing a pass that is ruled by the officials as intentionally

grounded. Credit Benson with a solo pass sack, a solo tackle,

and a solo tackle for loss for the yards lost to the spot of the foul.

Charge Adams with a rush attempt and minus yards rushing to

the spot of the foul. The ensuing penalty is loss of down at the

spot of the foul. Also charge Team A with a penalty for no yards.

A.R. 7.

Adams is back to pass, but has the ball stripped fromhis grasp

before his arm starts going forward by Benson, causing a

fumble. The ball is then recovered behind the line of scrim-

mage by Allen. Credit Benson with a forced fumble, a solo pass

sack, a solo tackle, and a solo tackle for loss for the yards lost to

the spot of the recovery. Charge Adams with a rush attempt and

minus yards rushing to the spot of the recovery. Charge Team A

with a fumble not lost.

-- Edited by Cpt Crunch on Wednesday 9th of April 2014 10:04:04 AM

rosadoant · Veteran Member

According to the to stat tracking sheets available from hosted sports a sack counts as a sack, a tackle for a loss and a tackle. Tackles for a loss are counted as a tfl and a tackle. The best way to read it is player 1 got 6 tackles, 3 of them were for a loss and one was a sack. So his stats read 6tackles, 4tfl and one sack.

Jake Skeen · Newbie

No wonder why we end up with 60 tackles on 40 plays from scrimmage. Sorry my Bulldawg brothers I screwed you guy's out of many tackles throughout the years. It was either a sack, tackle for loss, or a tackle, only one per play.

chuckypita · Veteran Member

@Jake Sheen - me too! That's the way it should be! 1 per play. Make it uniform. All this "extra credit" crap skews everything. If you get a sack, it is a sack. Not a bloody tfl, tackle and sack! Just a sack.

rosadoant · Veteran Member

Unitl there is a decision made, I will continue to do it as hosted sports stat tracker form suggests. Sorry but that keeps it uniform all the way around. It doesn't skew the results that much either way. Take Shane Thomas for example, add in his totals from the final game and his 12 tackles there and he still leads the league in tackles. But if the League sets down guidelines on how they want stats done then we will track them that way.