Rocky Mountain Football League

It would be hard to see the general's and matadors move down. They did ok in AAA. Yeah the forfeit hurts them also the diggers forfieted also.

Trying to figure this out now is like a teenager hoping he's going to get lucky on the first date before he's even asked the girl out....

If a team folds then that throws a wrench into the whole works then you throw in two new teams and that's a couple of more wrenches of where to place them.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it was decided that the winning team moves up with the lowest team in their region moving down. That would be the Vipers moving up and the Shock (based on prior to the post-season) moving down but I find it very possible that the Shock will have a very good laugh in regards to that and be very content with staying in AAA.

So lets say the Unique are accepted then they could replace the Vipers in AA and if the Snow Devils move up then the Wyoming team could replace them. IMO this is the best option because anything under 8 teams in the AA would create schedule/travel issues.

I don't think forfeiting your playoff spot should be a reason to move down to AA, if so then that will happen more often and we all know that is bad news.

18 teams in AAA and 9 teams in AA (If the Phoenix do apply and are accepted) would be an awesome arrangement for everyone if you ask me.

-- Edited by UPY77 on Thursday 3rd of July 2014 01:47:10 PM

Even though we were at the bottom of the league this year, I have spoken to Brad and stated that the Bullets have no interest in moving down, we want to play and compete in the AAA. We got knocked down but we always got up for the next play. See you all in January.

Or the top 2 teams in AA can move up and everyone in AAA can stay and add in the unique and the outlaws. Then everyone is happy.

There was no intent to disrespect you there Kyto, everything I see and hear from the Shock show how great of an organization you have and for that, I have much respect for you and the Shock. You guys have always been a force to be reckoned with and you showed that all season. I think that the way the league structure is set up now strengthens the fact that the AA is for teams to get better and to move up to the AAA and be competitive.

-- Edited by UPY77 on Thursday 3rd of July 2014 10:54:29 PM

Nothing but love UPY!

this is no respect to any team or their talent level.....im thinking of the league. i apologize in advance if anyone is offended. the point of the aa / aaa split is to allow lesser teams to be competitive in their division.....not to prove a point. as a board, we have to make decisions based on the overall league. are the Vipers or Oilers or SnowDevils better than the teams we are moving down? if not, we arent accomplishing our goal to make the aaa the best of the best. we will still have blowout games in aaa. a good aa team does not always make a competitve team. we have to keep that in kind and understand it. would those teams fair any better than the ones we would be dropping down? would you rather have a first year aaa Vipers team or a second year Bulldawgs team? after a year in aaa, the Cobras know what to build on and recruit for next year. it probably takes a year just to understand that. i would hate to have the Cobras moved down and then dominate aa only to have to move back up and start all over. the bulldawgs, gladiators, bullets, ducks and FOR SURE shock would probably beat any team in the current aa. in my opinion, if any of those teams drop, they win the aa championship next year. i say we leave it as it is for another year, let the new teams come in as aa teams and build on the parity of that division. 10 teams or 11 teams or whatever.....figure it out. it will also offset any teams folding. there was enough parity that realistically any of the top 4 out of the 8 teams could have won the championship. thats a great setup. Vipers won the championship but werent dominant in aa. voting was probably 50/50. i think that is what we are striving for. if a team isnt sandbagging in aa than let them stay. the 2014 vipers or oilers or snowdevils are not the 2013 generals. let the bulldawgs, gladiators and bullets recover from a down season and stay put in aaa another year. lets get some stability in the new structure before we overhaul the whole thing. let the Vipers try to repeat and defend their title. if the Vipers, Devils and Oilers leave, other than the Mustangs you are dealing with nothing but new, rebuilding or starter teams less than 3 years in the league. warriors, lancers, guardians, diggers and mustangs with any new team coming in. is that what you want in aa? i also think we should only accept teams in the league if a team folds for the next couple years. there are too many moving parts right now to be a srable league. i think the plans for the offseason should be.....

aaa playoff seeding
league sponsorship
all star game/championship game dates and locations
team/staff/division respect of each other and league perception
website/forum
adherence/enforcement of constitution/rules

i have no problems with you moving up.i think you missed my point.exchanging last team for first team may not be the best formula because it lacks consistency in teams trying to be aaa ready.if the Vipers move up and lose every game in 2015 and the Bulldawgs win the aa after moving down in 2015, have we gained anything as a league? the point should be and i think is to move teams up that are going to add parity to the aaa and make more parity for aa.i think we need teams to stay in aaa a couple years and BUILD for aaa rather than survive one season and then move back.im not all saying that will happen to the Vipers.im just throwing it out there.exchanging a team that didnt make the playoffs with another team that didnt make the playoffs doesnt add anything to the league or the structure.i just think maybe we should change the constitution to keep a structure for at least 2 years unless a team lobbies to go down just to give a team one year to see it and one year to improve on it.i hope that makes sense.even if the teams move up i think this is something to consider moving forward.

Welcome to the nature of the beast. The rumor mill will keep churning out rumors with no verification and no justification.

Jaye u still pickin against us lol...we handled everyone that was thrown at us in AA n won the ship in convincing matter if the Cobras are good enough to move up after last year we are definitely good enough after this year...This isn't the same Viper team u beat 2 years ago...n our teams can play whenever u are ready so we can prove u wrong
Vipers#13

slow down mr.mak.....i think youre missing the point.....youre making it a Vipers or Cobras thing.....i speak RMFL and not in regards to any particular team.not even my own team.....even if i use examples.read the message and not the specifics.

#1 i dont beat my chest about my squad.im not that guy.i saw you guys play a couple times...you got some ballers.....#2, #11, some of your linemen stood out as athletes but dont be the 2011 / 2012 gladiators and get ahead of yourselves.congrats on the wins.enjoy it.my hats off to you guys....thats enough said on the challenge.it was entertaining though.

#2 sometimes its hard to fix or stabilize something when you constantly have moving parts.we bave a couple major issues in the playoff seeding and scheduling.lets create a stable structure and formula before we continuously change.lets make sure we have a solid formula for a year or two prior to switching things up again.no team in aa was the 2013 generals and blew over every team they faced.the good thing was that teams won that werent expected to.thats what parity is.the generals staying down in 2013 or the gladiators who smashed eveyone in their path were clearly better than at least 2 or 3 teams in aaa.i dont think that is the case this year.moving teams up should be to improve the aaa.if its not than we are not accomplishing our goal.

#3 my point is to leave it as it is.the top 4 teams in aa are close enough in talent to still have parity and fair competition.while the other teams in aa have another year to catch up.the bottom 4 aaa teams can stay where they are and rebuild after what simply appeared to be a year with some unforeseen problems.i think any of those teams runs through aa in dominant fashion.especially if Vipers, Devils and/or Oilers move up.in the meantime, we can use the same teams and structure to create a consistent structure for years to come.you cannot do that when the landscape keeps changing.

-- Edited by GORILLA20 on Sunday 6th of July 2014 09:02:43 AM

Vipers average margin of victory was 32 points.


Only three teams scored on them all season.

All season
Then the team that beat them by more than 7 points they beat by 12 and then 30....


Y'all slept on the vipers all season n every time they came thru in a big way.


Vipers and oilers should move up.


Admit the Phoenix and thunder
Gladiators and mud ducks move down (I respect the ducks but they should've moved down this past year)


The aa will have 10 teams

Aaa stay the same

Let the Vipers go AAA it will be nice to see how they handle the big 4. Great falls tried it once and lost by 35 plus points on average lol and I know viper 54 is still on his wining high but when reality hits he gonna wish they played gem state and the mini cassia again for those big blowout wins

Fact no one wants to think about....... the 2014 AA teams during the 2013 season had a combined regular season record of 16-64 (.250). The Oilers where the only 2014 AA team to finish the 2013 regular season with a winning.record.

2013 Record

Oilers 5-3

Mustangs 4-4

Snow Devils 2-6

Diggers 2-6

Guardians 1-7

Vipers 1-7

Warriors 1-7

Lancers 0-8

It will be interesting. Its a complete different level. I know the general's are not the same team as last year but in 2013 that team was unstoppable. And from what it looks like there are even better teams in Utah.

Like I said how do u know how you will do unless u are thrown into the fire...why does it matter how we handle THE BIG 4...it's football u win u lose but in the the end we all play to for the competition...if u don't play the best then why even play...2013 AA records show's that teams are getting better...just look at the records for this year as most of all those teams have vastly improved and I imagine will only get better...I know as far as The Vipers go we aren't even the same team as last year we have a good nucleus of good new players and it showed going from 1-7 to AA Champs...u can only see how u will do if u try...either way I'm ready for any challenge thrown my way as is my entire team
VIPERS#13

Gladiators are staying AAA.....We had rough season but it was do to some last minute changes. It was a player ran team and even though we only played 16-21 players we never forfeited any game. We are already building for next season and will be well prepared.

Nah were not folding and i'm not to worried about our roster

Nah we don't like nine man football were staying in the rmfl we like to travel and have adversity instead of playing in boise

I guess we will just have to see this next spring when the season starts

Guardians did not score a single point this season. This was the worst season for them yet with the easiest schedule yet. They actually got worse this year. I will say they have not forfieted yet and that's a surprise. But i will say they need a new person running that offence and heck a new guy running that defence. Probably some of the worst coaching in the league.

Playing the bottom teams of last years AA and not even scoring a single point is better?

Gorilla don't act like you have never had auto correct screw you over.

7-499 first year points against 3 AAA teams now.
0-403 third year against all bottom of the AA last year.
In my mind that's the worst season yet for the guardians.i hope the guardians the best but it's not looking very well. They need a major over haul. I would say with trying to get some better coaches and get some one that can recruit.